Newsgroups: comp.parallel From: Nicholas Geovanis Subject: Re: Help me design your language (Town Meeting) .... Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Date: 17 Jun 1998 17:04:54 GMT Message-ID: <6m8svm$2qa$1@encore.ece.cmu.edu> On 11 Jun 1998, Alec Cawley wrote: > 10 years after the appearance of decent GUI environments, it is crazy > that we are still using ASCII to write software. ASCII is a subset of > text, which was invented to represent speech, which is how humans talk > to each other. When did you last talk to your computer (and expect it to > understand, I mean)? Contrariwise, have you ever tried to read software > We need a GUI based programming system. Which is not to ignore the use > of the keyboard as an input device - keyboard in represents better > But not a graphical front-end on a current language. That has been tried > too many times, and is just painting over the rot; you still need to Took a quick spin through your web page.... Have you ever seen/used Hewlett-Packard's VEE language/environment? It may not meet your object scheme as-it-is, but in what other ways does it meet or fail to meet your needs? I didn't see any references in your note or on your www pages to the literature on visual programming (NO! I'm not talking about Visual-C++! I'm talking about VISUAL PROGRAMMING!). Work has been done in your area of interest, what is your evaluation of that work? And of course, you seem to have ignored the fact that many people are NOT using ASCII to write software: The GUI-builder environments emphatically DO NOT meet your requirements (or mine) as languages or programming environments, but the fact is that they are used, and they are a partial solution. They cannot safely be ignored. <---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Lest we forget scorched earth policies, | Nick Geovanis Of megaton and Hydrogen, | IT Computing Svcs And taut muscle of an armory that flexes, | Northwestern Univ To show the world we mean business! - Napalm Death V n-geovanis@nwu.edu -- Articles to bigrigg+parallel@cs.cmu.edu (Admin: bigrigg@cs.cmu.edu) Archive: http://www.hensa.ac.uk/parallel/internet/usenet/comp.parallel